I grabbed my first copy from the book A Course in Miracles circa 2005. I had heard it referenced by a lot of in the spiritual teachers I had been into during the time and figured I ought to probably check it out. Among my first memories of reading this course was located on a hospital bed while awaiting x-rays on my ankle from a skateboarding accident. Going reading the introduction, which said, “Nothing real may be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.” Sounds good right? Well I’d be completely brimming with shit only said I had some revelation, or really even any clue as to what that meant. It sounded and also esoteric however, so I continue reading. Right after weeks, I position the Course aside as it was the same to reading a novel coded in Chinese. I happily returned to reading my books by Ram Dass and Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche….A minimum of I can understand some of them, or at best make believe when talking regarding the subject.
Fast-forward to 2007. I had been in a local library while i stumbled on a solid book called Secrets of the Immortal: Advanced Teachings from your Course in Miracles. I’d again be lying only said I had any revelation using this audio book, not because its content wasn’t sufficient, but because I downloaded it to my computer rather than paid attention to it. Again, I returned to reading my others spiritual texts, at this point I’d advanced to the like of Ken Wilber & Sri Ramana Maharshi, definitely more difficult to make believe you determine what we were holding saying in conversation, on the other hand tried.
Twelve months later, in 2008, for whatever reason, I looked at my copy of your Course in Miracles making it the resolution that I would certainly finally read it, and not just see clearly, but comprehend it! Well, I will claim that now I stuck with it, for the most part. I remembered the audio book I’d ripped to my library the previous year, so I uploaded it to my trusty iPod and commenced listening to it on various commutes. Tricks of the Immortal actually broke the program down inside a comprehensive, yet user-friendly method in which I could work with.
Most way with the audiobook I noticed I didnrrrt be aware of who I became listening too (damn bootlegged copies), i really went back to the pc and located out it turned out Gary Renard. That name really meant nothing to me at the time, nor did the other Course teachers like Kenneth Wapnick or Marianne Williamson, because not really a particularly popular spiritual path. Not as it’s a strict discipline, or there is dogma mounted on it. If something, oahu is the complete opposite of that.
After completing Gary’s audiobook, I moved on towards the first of his two books authored by Hay House, titled The Disappearance in the Universe. I grabbed DU (because it’s known by it’s readers) and was literally engulfed from the moment I began. Not simply achieved it carry on and breakdown this course in a way that I really could understand, but it also discussed many contemporary issues, and just how they may be seen differently over the Course. I finished DU inside per week and grabbed a copy of Your Immortal Reality.
Your Immortal Reality really solidified my faith in Gary’s teachings as while i finished it, I had created virtually no problem reading and understanding Training in Miracles. That isn’t to express I haven’t got to take a seat with, and contemplate most of its passages every now and then, but without Gary’s work, my copy of an Course in Miracles would be collecting dust around the bookshelf. So just what inside the hell can be a Course in Miracles? Keep reading to see! (*Note- I’d like to reiterate that although A training course in Miracles is my very own, personal spiritual path, I, by no means, would like to promote, or endorse it more than every other spiritual tradition, a few of which happen to be wonderful catalysts in my spiritual path, i still tap into today.)
The Gary Renard Interview PT I of II
TIS: Let’s quickly just get straight into it…According to A Course In Miracles (also called ACIM), the interview we both are doing today can be an illusion. Do you understand why for all those not really acquainted with ACIM’s teaching?
GR: Sure. People can think about the universe of energy and space like a projection. Individuals who have read my books understand that I prefer to see a movies, with an analogy I love to make are these claims, Time passes into the movie theatre i would like it to be real. The lights go lower and my attention is diverted towards the screen. As I will focus on the screen, I may get sucked to the story, possibly becoming emotional, and even speaking with the screen. I really forget that there are certainly not anything happening there, that it is trick, a fantasy, a sleight of hand. The American Indians use to convey, “behold, the fantastic mystery”. Well the program says “behold, the truly great mystery”, it says “behold, the truly amazing projection”. It’s actually a projection from a projector, which can be hidden. When you’re in a theatre, you’re not meant to consider the projector, you’re meant to be done with it while keeping focused on the screen, which is what folks are doing here too. They’re concentrating on the screen that individuals call life, and so they think it’s reality, but because the Hindu’s, Buddhist’s & ACIM says, it’s actually a fantasy. This course further refines that idea into this being ideal that we’ll awaken from, and it’s that awakening that is the same in principle as enlightenment. It’s what Buddha meant whilst said “I am awake”. He actually awoken make up the entire desire space and time.
Let’s quickly say I’m within the theatre and i also wish to change what’s on-screen, not in a temporary way, but permanently. A means where I’m able to obviously have something happen that might work. Easily desired to change that which was with that screen, it would not do me a lot of ready to go up and waste time with it. I would have to keep in mind that you will find there’s projector which can be hidden from the back, that i am not likely to consider that. Well, easily actually want to change what’s on the watch’s screen inside a permanent way, then not merely would I have to keep in mind that there’s a projector, I would also need to believe it is, and alter what’s within it.
As an alternative if I could do that, I’d personally be dealing with the source, rather than the effect. I might be from the position of power because I’d be going after something which could work permanently as an alternative to only temporarily. It could supply real power because I would be coping with the cause, and not the result, which can be what are the Course teaches, which can be that it’s a course in cause, rather than effect. It also says “seek to never customize the world, seek rather to modify your mind in regards to the world”. That is because when you visit your brain, you’re going to the place that the projector is hidden, where this universe of time and space is originating from. What we’re seeing is coming coming from a projector that is certainly actually hidden within the unconscious mind. I’m not just talking about an individual unconscious mind, which a lot of people call the subconscious. I’m referring to the unconscious mind all of us share. There’s really only certainly one of us sharing this unconscious mind which is the place that the universe of energy and space is arriving from.
So refer to it being being a movie that you’re watching. The Course says you’re revealing mentally that which has already gone by. So it is already over as far as the Course can be involved, and we’re just watching it. We’re feeling however, that we’re actually in it, and exactly how out, is usually to change what’s within the mind according to the Course. It’s a different kind of forgiveness than most of the people think about however, which we’ll get into. Just what exactly that does, can it be undoes it that I’ll call the “ego”. You can imagine the ego beeing the idea of separation, the notion that we’ve taken on they identity and personal existence which is somehow outside of its source.
Our experience now, is we’re separate, that the body personifies. We presume like we’re in bodies, and apart from other individuals, and also our source, that’s God. To help you consider the ego because idea of separation. Just what the Course and other great spiritual teachings do is that they undo the ego. That’s something taught to me by my teachers from the Disappearance in the Universe plus your Immortal Reality. They taught me the Course along with what it indicates, using a huge selection of quotations from that to indicate how it’s actually saying. They that in a way that we could go back and truly understand it’s teaching. In their second visit, my teachers told me that we was going to buy my first copy of the Course, and so i did, and it made no sense in my experience in any way. It might also happen to be written in an international language. After 7 or 8 visits from them however, I could turn back and browse the program, and yes it actually made sense. Having seen that, I figured there were something there, which would work.
So even though it took quite a long time for the book to get ready, I tied to it. It turned out a labor of love. Irrrve never knew Whether or not this will be published or otherwise, or just what the reaction will be. It’s since resolved perfectly though. One thing my teachers trained me in was that salvation, because the Course says, is undoing. The main reason which is a brilliant approach is because should you undo the ego, the false you, in the event you could completely accomplish that job, then eventually the real selecting all that’s left. The genuine you is not about the universe of your energy and space. The true you ‘s what this course would call spirit, though the Course uses words differently than most people understand them. Once the Course says “spirit”, it isn’t really talking about a concept of individuality. Most people think about spirit as being the same in principle as the soul. You’ve got a soul and die, and there is it which goes on as soon as you, which looks suspiciously like the body you merely left. Well that’s still a solid idea of individuality and separation.
When ACIM uses the phrase “spirit”, it is not speaking about a thing that is part of it, it’s discussing a thing that is the comparable to its source, that is God. It’s referring to something you may suffer, and also this experience is exactly the comparable to being God. Actually, the Course describes it the awareness of perfect oneness, so it’s an event you can have, even when you appear to be here running around within a body. The easiest approach to have that experience is always to undo the ego, which leaves you within a condition of spirit. At some part, the Course states that mental performance could be the activating agent of spirit. So it’s by selecting (and that is where forgiveness will come in) the way you take into consideration people. We can easily choose to obtain them to separate bodies, and if we do that, that’s how we’ll experience ourselves. As we think of them to be beyond their bodies though, then we’re doing exactly what the Course suggests, that’s look past the veil, and overlooking one’s body. Eventually, we’ll arrive at experience our self to be spirit, that’s provided that you consider them to nothing less than God, but, being everything.
There are no longer one speck of information in the universe of your energy and space that your particular unconscious brain is not aware of. It really knows everything. It would need access as it’s projecting the universe of your time and space, so that it would need to have all of the information that is certainly contained inside it. Now, one thing your unconscious mind knows, is the fact that there is certainly really only among us. We feel we’ve six billion individuals, with an incredible number of decisions from which to choose, and trillions of objects within the universe of energy and space. The fact remains though, it doesn’t matter how perhaps you divide and subdivide, there’s really only one among us that thinks it’s here. There’s this one ego that thinks it’s separated itself looking at the source and taken with this personal identity and individual existence. There’s one ego that thinks it’s here, and you’re simply it, it is not another person, there’s not anyone else.
The rest is the thing that the Hindu’s call the world of multiplicity. It’s literally a sleight of hand, an illusion. So we’re tricked by this thing, I’m calling the ego, since there is something we do not learn about it. The ego likes this concept of separation. It wants to keep it up, because it feels important & special. It’s like Jesus’ prodigal son story- he leaves his fathers house, sounding by himself as he thinks they can do better, which turns out to be a mistake. Everything he finds is scarcity, and you can’t have scarcity in heaven because what you have can be an understanding of perfect oneness, that i mentioned earlier. From the condition of perfect oneness, you have the whole thing, and also you can’t have scarcity when you have everything. You additionally can’t have death for those who have perfect oneness. It’ only once there is a split from that perfect oneness that you set up opposites along with the chance of another one’s, that’s death, along with the chance for a contrary to abundance, that is scarcity.
So everything you’re seeing is founded on duality. This is why it says within the book of Genesis, you will not eat from the tree of data of excellent and evil, during the day you consume than it, you shall die. Well good and evil are opposites, once you’ve got opposites, you can have death. You can not have death where there no opposites though, which is why ACIM says in it’s introduction, the alternative of love is fear, but what ‘s all encompassing, that’s obviously God, may have no opposite. So what you want to do is go back to a location its keep isn’t any such thing as opposites, where there is not any death or scarcity. That is the thought of going home that Jesus is intending to convey inside the prodigal son story. Eventually the prodigal son realized he previously designed a mistake, which can be that he had left, knowning that the main one decision he had to produce ended up being to leave, which he did. You see also in that story, the prodigal son has a lot of strange ideas about himself. He thinks he’s guilty, and contains ideas that he’s committed a sin against his father, and is not worthy to become called God’s on. So he says, well maybe if I go home I could start at the end and work my high as one of His servants and have back to his good graces. Exactly what the prodigal son doesn’t seem to comprehend is that God doesn’t share any sexual affair ideas about him.
Both the Bible and ACIM say God is great love, therefore if perfect love in fact is perfect love, then everything that God would know the way to do is love. If he knew how you can be angry, wrathful or judgmental, then it would not be perfect love. What ACIM does is give to us a God that really is great love and all that God wants is made for us into the future home. The rest of the ideas, because the Course puts it, would be the own nightmare , nor exist. So because sense, it really is a fantasy of guilt and separation that we are having. The concept is always to undo that with the process of forgiveness in which you see people to be this perfect spirit, when your unconscious mind knows everything, then one of the things that it knows is the fact that there actually is one amongst us. So regardless of what you consider someone else, it isn’t dining out in them, it will you. Your unconscious mind will interpret that it is a message from you, for you, and about you, since it sees that there is only certainly one of us.
There is a really important law of the mind that’s articulated within a Course In Miracles that is simple, but true. It says, “As the truth is him, you will notice yourself”, so whatever you’re interested in somebody else is actually just likely to you. It will also determine how you feel about yourself and consequently what you believe you happen to be. You’ll be able to think that you might be a body which you’re separate, additionally, you can believe you’re this perfect spirit which is exactly like God. Based on the Course, brain is the activating agent of spirit and that is ways to actually make positive changes to experience of life, from a state of depression to some state of happiness. You gradually make room to the experience with being spirit.
The ironic thing is you can still need your lifetime. You won’t need to give anything up, you continue to live an average life this will let you great time. In the event you meet someone and fall madly in love, and even get married, do it now. I just got married myself last year. Whatever is front of your face will probably be for just one of two purposes. Either judge it, or forgive it. You will have when you won’t need to forgive anything. The main objective of ACIM is not on forgiving romantic a walks on the beach or music or art. The main objective with the Course is on forgiving the negative emotions that come up.
The program also claims that anger isn’t justified. It does not point out that you will never get angry, I will virtually promise that you’re going to. It will state that it’s never justified and the sooner which you do not forget that, the less you’ll suffer. The reason anger is never justified is really because what you are seeing is really a projection which is originating from you. You’re the one that caused it to be up and place the individuals there, you wished these phones be there. That may seem hard to believe at first, that’s just what you wanted. The guilt you felt over separating from God can be considered being away from you, instead of in the human body. Which is the whole reason for projection. A psychologist would let you know that whatever is denied, should be projected. Well what we’re taking a look at in the universe of your time and space is actually a thing that is symbolic of separation, however it is based on a massive metaphysical denial prior to time began, prior to what were the large Bang from the universe of your time and space.
There are these products that particular ego felt very guilty about, and exactly how that that ego thought it could possibly do away with that guilt ended up being to deny it. Once it absolutely was denied, it was projected outwards and that is the location where the projection is arriving from. The best way house is to undo the projection, which once more is the reason the program says that salvation is undoing. So by undoing it, eventually that have of separation disappears. You return to the experience with perfect oneness then you are enlightened, and as the Course puts it, enough time can come when you’re scheduled to check out of here. So you’ll lay one’s body aside to the final time, and because there is absolutely no ego, there is absolutely no basis for you to definitely come back. To ensure that perfect oneness with God gets a prominent experience to suit your needs, whenever you lay one’s body aside for the final time and simply go home. Then your experience of perfect oneness becomes your permanent reality.
TIS: Phew. I’ve read your books, and followed your mp3 audiobooks numerous times, that is certainly still a great consume. There is a deep truth that resonates for me personally though because you speak however.
GR: Yeah, the program says a good deal, but you’ll find that everything this course says, all fits together, kind of as being a hologram.
TIS: Right.
GR: You could point out that this course provides you with two complete and mutually exclusive thought systems. There is an thought system of the Holy Spirit, that is information on love and forgives, and actually becoming love yourself within your experience, and exactly how you look at others, that may naturally result in you treating others with love. Then you need the ego thought system, which is exactly about judgment and condemnation. This course says you’ll be able to only do a couple of things. It says, “He who’d not forgive, must judge, for he has to justify his failure to forgive”. And if you’re not likely to forgive someone, then you’ve got to generate up a complete story about why they are not value your forgiveness, also it would take less time only to forgive them.
One of the other items I like regarding the Course could it be actually gives you a way home, a means from this mess. I’m not really saying you shouldn’t enjoy it while you’re here, it’s only how the is temporary, it will not last. People think it is quite valuable, but wait, how valuable can something be if it’s temporary and not gonna last? The best thing quite a few for would be to learn and communicate, and share the reality with people. Now you ask ,, how’s it going gonna utilize time that you are here. A couple of times this course asks the facts for, regarding what you’re seeing… what exactly is it for? Well, it’s for forgiveness because by forgiving, you undo the ego as well as your experience can change, and it is a much better experience. It is actually preferable to certainly be a spirit compared to a body. It’s better to be described as a butterfly compared to a caterpillar, it’s a less restricted life form and a higher quality of life. It’s really a win-win situation.
You can still have your daily life and pretend that you’re a doctor, or perhaps a racecar driver, or do what I really do, and pretend you’re spiritual teacher and go around the globe and talk with people. My teachers Arten and Pursah said that regardless of some tips i do, my real job is forgiveness and everything else is simply a cover job. The forgiveness opportunities should come up for people, and they are available in a variety of forms. The program claims that the right lesson is always prior to you, though that is seldom recognized. So it’s no mystery the pain you are designed to forgive, that is whatever is appropriate in front of the face. These are lessons that the Holy Spirit wants that you learn, and forgive.
It isn’t really always fun because an enormous amount of duality. You will have both fun times and bad while you are here. There isn’t any getting away from that as this is a whole lot of opposites. So there will be times where you will need to forgive, and instances when you won’t, when you are enjoying themselves which enable it to just “celebrate” because Course says. ACIM is often a happy form of spirituality. It references the happy dream and being a happy learner. Among the ten characteristics of the teacher of God is joy. And this isn’t an suffering, morose form of spirituality. It is not a good religion. ACIM is a self-study course. It’s done between anyone with a Holy Spirit or perhaps you and Jesus, or whatever you’d like to refer to it. Jesus will be the teacher inside the Course. He speaks in first person and it’s clear it’s given by him. Very first a happy form of spirituality, but it is changing the way that people go through the historical Jesus.
I’m pleased to observe that nowadays that when you’re going into Unity Churches, or you visit to my place, there is a drawings and paintings of Jesus, and he’s laughing and smiling, and that’s the best way he actually was. He wasn’t some suffering, unhappy guy. He had a sense humor anf the husband was married to Mary Magdalene. He’d normal relationships, and friends and they partied after they wanted too. They’d check out a wedding celebration that may last three weeks because that’s the way things were in those days. I do think you recruit a better view of what life was like at that time Jesus lived by reading the existing Testament, a lot more than one does reading the New Testament because that is what it was like. You read items like Solomon and pretty racy stuff. There are many sexual things mentioned. The stuff about being puritans and goody two shoes came after Jesus. It didn’t have everything to apply what life was like as they was walking around. All of that was developed up through the church because they wanted make up a religion and they also did.
The material of Jesus got completely lost and changed into its opposite, the industry message of suffering and sacrifice, and that is not what he involved whatsoever. He concerned the end of suffering and sacrifice. Probably the best illustration is always that he couldn’t feel any pain following his life. As ACIM puts it, the guiltless mind cannot suffer, and Jesus’ mind have been completely healed through the Holy Spirit, so he no guilt in his mind, which meant he couldn’t suffer, that also resulted in he couldn’t feel any pain. So this whole concept that somehow he suffered and sacrificed himself for the sins is not to do with him. It’s really a constructed theology through the apostle Paul. Actually, it’s Paul’s theology, that’s the first step toward Christianity. It isn’t really based on the teachings of Jesus.
So now you have a Jesus who could forgive anybody, even when these were killing him, but nowadays there is an “Christians” who can’t forgive those who have done not them? There exists a contradiction here. It’s a convoluted version of Jesus. I believe one of the reasons my books, and ACIM do so well, and i think continuously, since the Course will probably be around for a thousand years, is really because at the conclusion of the day it makes sense. It’s a complete thought system. Everything fits together and is also based on love and forgiveness.
Should you take a look at some of the old Greek texts, from the beginning of Christianity, they used to say (about the early Christians), “you’ll know them by their love”. The initial specification of the saying “repent” in Greek is approximately a change of mind. It’s not about taking care of your respond to the level of the entire world. This really is at the level of the mind leading to a difference of mind. That’s the main idea, since they did get a number of what Jesus was saying at the time. ACIM is done on the a higher level mental performance, because this is the degree of cause, as well as the world is just the effect. That’s not me praoclaiming that you can not get it, and luxuriate in it, but following the day it is a temporary experience.
It’s exactly what the Buddhist’s call impermanence, and since it’s impermanent and temporary, you can not find any permanent satisfaction or happiness there. It is really very easy to find permanent happiness in changing your appearance with the world though, which again is the reason why the Course says, “seek not to change the world, seek rather to modify your mind about the world”. If you do that you may be working with the degree of cause rather than the effect, that is extremely important.
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